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Pseudolonewolf`s Avatar Well, well... Fri 14th May 2010 12:56am

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The site was down for a while due to excessive load... This was probably caused by the chat (which I've temporarily disabled), but it could have been caused by other things like the user pages too (since they're the only other high-load things I can think of).
I really badly need to optimise them, but since I can't do it right this second, could you please not look at too many user pages for a while unless you really HAVE to for some reason?

While I'm writing this news article, I may as well report on the sponsorship status...
I'm not sure whether I'm going to be selling MARDEK 3 or not!
That is, you children who seem incapable of or unwilling to convince your parents to pay a few dollars for the game might get lucky and be able to play it for free after all.
This isn't a final decision and I may go with the demo/full version idea still, but I've been thinking more about the long term...

It isn't really nice (I wasn't going to use the word 'fair' here, but it's not exactly UNFAIR, this) of me to keep delaying and delaying the release only to say at the last minute that it wouldn't be free, after people expected for ages that it would be... And the game's not really designed around the idea of it costing money either so it might not really *work* if I go down that path.
I DO intend to involve payment in Beast Signer and FHO, so be warned. Because of that, it would be wise to build up a fanbase before they're out, I suppose. Since I'd gain FAR more fans if the game was free, it'd benefit me in the long term.

Also, I'd hopefully get quite a bit of money from sponsorship *anyway*, and shared advert revenue and stuff like that, which might even exceed what I might have got from the paid full version idea thing. And I'd be able to win contests...
It wouldn't be a *gamble*, either, if I went with a sponsorship. I'd know what I was getting and it wouldn't really be any fuss, whereas if I charged money for the game, I would have no idea how much I'd earn and the money might trickle in gradually, while a big up-front payment from a sponsor would be nice to have right now.

So, uh, yes. No decision as of yet, but it could go either way, really.

Also, I don't type properly and my fingers hurt. Agh. I'm trying to learn to type with the proper asdfjkl; method at the moment, which is, uh, barrels of fun. And not tedious at all. Oh no.
It's distracting though... I've had a lot of writing to do, which I've been unable to do because of this. Hmm. Hopefully I can become a master touch-typist in like a day or something. I'm sure that's realistic.
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Archey`s Avatar
Rating Orb Archey 17 Brazil MelancholicCholeric 37C 8F
7 years ago | (0)
I'm sure that not buying MARDEK is not a option, of course, if it was a paid game. But I don't know if all your fanbase would buy it at all. I mean, you already postponed MARDEK a lot, and that is a fact, and after all the Hype and wait for this awesome free game of you's, near the final deadline, you annouce that it will, after all, cost. All fanbase would *RAGE* all day if THAT came along.
I think that if you are going to charge for any other's games of your's you should at least say it or make it clear from the very beginning that it will cost.
brickhead95`s Avatar
Rating Orb brickhead95 20 United States CholericMelancholic 15C 2F
7 years ago | (7)
Good idea on making M3 free but, in the future, making other games such as FHO and beast singer costly.
spoon`s Avatar
Rating Orb spoon 16 United States MelancholicPhlegmatic 32C 69F
7 years ago | (5)
DVORAK is supposedly better on your hands than QWERTY, and, after using it, I must say, there is a semblance of truth to that.

I'm not sure how... Er... Effective it might be, though, seeing as how you'll have to learn an entirely knew keyboard layout, so... Hmm. Just a thought.
Pseudolonewolf`s Avatar
Rating Orb A β Pseudolonewolf 23 United Kingdom MelancholicPhlegmatic 2257C 559F
7 years ago | (4)
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Uh... o_O
That is to say, this is something that I've been interested in for a while, switching to Dvorak, because of all the supposed benefits of it. So recently I've been playing around with it, doing some Dvorak tutorials, printing out a guide for the Dvorak layout, etc. So far it seems like it could be beneficial, but it's probably going to be a big change.
And then there's the matter of assigning controls in my games... Z and X are what my games tend to use, but those keys for Dvorak are ; and Q... which seems a bit silly. But oh well; I doubt Dvorak users would make up a significant portion of players anyway, and I can always switch back to QWERTY mode in a click to play them myself...
spoon`s Avatar
Rating Orb spoon 16 United States MelancholicPhlegmatic 32C 69F
7 years ago | (4)
Haha, yes, I suppose it would be silly... You're probably right, there wouldn't be that many Dvorak users out there, but do you think that it'd be too much trouble to make a somehow... Different version, maybe, for Dvorak users? I dunno, just a thought.

Something I did was just open the On Screen Keyboard and use it as a reference for when/if I got lost, and it worked pretty well for me. I had to switch back to qwerty, though, because there were too many issues wit other people using the computer and being unable to type anything. :/
Squirrel`s Avatar
Rating Orb Squirrel 18 United States MelancholicCholeric 26C 0F
7 years ago | (3)
My business teacher (whom I dislike a great deal, but is still very competent at her job. Also, she can type faster than she can speak) has mentioned Dvorak in her Computer Literacy class several times. She seemed to think that, despite the supposed benefits of Dvorak, Qwerty and Dvorak both end up being about the same. People who could type proficiently with Dvorak were no faster than people who could type proficiently with Qwerty. She said the studies that placed Dvorak as being superior were flawed and headed by the guy who made Dvorak, which is like studies paid for by Big Tobacco saying cigarettes do not kill people. I really would not know either way: I have never even seen the Dvorak layout. This is simply what I have been taught.
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Random person`s Avatar
Rating Orb Random person 21 European Union PhlegmaticCholeric 40C 7F
7 years ago | (3)
It seems to me that quite a lot of people are unable to pay for one reason or another. I've already suggested Pseudo a way to get around that, but it might be wise to let you people discuss it a bit. I believe that payment via SMS is the best solution. A mobile phone is everything one needs to pay, and it's a highly reliable way. I can state that as I've used it quite a lot of times. No failures/problems. Ever.

Now, it's rather obvious that children's parents will be strongly against this as it will be possible for children to pay without their parent's permission. However as soon as Pseudo gets the money nothing can be done about it. And it's actually possible for all the unable to pay people to get around their problems.

I'd like to hear the public opinion as it will aid Pseudo to make his chiose. Please do feel free to comment
Zuriki`s Avatar
Rating Orb Zuriki 18 United Kingdom Melancholic 234C 84F
7 years ago | (3)
The service charges for Pseudo means it would cost you like $15 on SMS and $10 on PayPal. Because they take such a large portion of the income.
Random person`s Avatar
Rating Orb Random person 21 European Union PhlegmaticCholeric 40C 7F
7 years ago | (1)
I couldn't agree to that. The games where I bother to spend money don't seem to offer an opportunity to pay with PayPal, however paying with SMS is't much more expensive than any other ways. As a matter of fact, the difference is so small that it can be entirely neglected. I don't live in UK though, so I can't really tell how big the difference might be. Jet I don't believe it will be quite as big as $5 of additional cost. Either way, I'll leave the final judgement to those who know better.

Thanks for mentioning this issue though. Although it might not be all that essential in case if one pays without parent's permission, it might be very important to those more obedient of us.
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Dirol`s Avatar
Rating Orb Dirol 22 Russia 2C 0F
7 years ago | (6)
As for Mardek, I think you should consider marketing approach of all open-source projects. Like special ads on site (which you're currently using), asking actively for donations, making a lots of money by additional to game stuff, like "collection editions" merged 1-3 chapters, with a few additional side quests and a few more items, just something little, but surely nice to those fans, which choose to support Mardek that way. You would be surprised of how much copies of such Collection edition you would sale ;) (I would personally buy one). Mardek gonna be a multi-chapter game, but you still can make collection edition from first three chapters and then for others. With discount to whom bought the first "collection edition". That's my point.
If you're interested you can find more info in the internet about making money on open-source.
And I doubt if your fanbase on Mardek would be interested in buying Beast Signer.. It's just something different kind of a game and other people would be interested in, not the same as for Mardek.. Don't forget this thing too.
As for typing with right hand, yeah )) It's common problem. I'm a programmer - typing with both hands: left -4-5 fingers and right - 3. Cause of the mouse, which is 90% of time occupies my right hand - it remains undeveloped =)
Zuriki`s Avatar
Rating Orb Zuriki 18 United Kingdom Melancholic 234C 84F
7 years ago | (4)
Mardek isn't an open source project though... Open-Source does not mean Free and vice versa.
Onisuzume`s Avatar
Rating Orb β Onisuzume 24 European Union Melancholic 134C 259F
7 years ago | (4)
There is no point in making mardek open-source since there wouldn't realyl be anything to add to it. The only things that could be the result of it are flawed copies smegged up beyond pseudo's recognition, and total conversion mods. Not to mention that it'll be much harder to get money from it (through sponsorship or otherwise). Another difficulty in this would be the fact that mardek is a flash game, which means that one will have to know how flash works to modify it, which would probably mean that making it open-source will be a waste of time.
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Tama Yoshi`s Avatar
Rating Orb Tama Yoshi 18 Canada PhlegmaticCholeric 68C 33F
7 years ago | (4)
I'm surprised about how much money is an issue here. I've always thought you were doing this as a pass-time... Truth be told, you sure do spend a lot of time on it (obviously). But really, either you make games for the money or you don't make games for the money. And I do understand that not making games for money may paradoxically bring you money.

My point is that I can barely tell where you're standing between the money and the casual. I don't remember hearing you say you had any kind of job, right? ...Well.

Honestly, given how MARDEK were good, I WOULD pay a bunch of money for it.

I had an idea, a dumb idea though, concerning the massive load of music file you had. I thought about putting the midi versions of them in your game instead. Though, I've no idea wether you have the midi files, or if it would take a lot of room, or stuff. But I know that MIDIs are by far smaller than any other music files (that I know of). I'm not exactly sure how many room it would take. (Maybe I'm totally wrong and your 72 musics are already in MIDI files >_>) Though I've read the size wasn't a limit anymore, and I'm not really sure why...
Minnakht`s Avatar
Rating Orb Minnakht 16 Poland PhlegmaticSanguine 121C 84F
7 years ago | (6)
Because MARDEK 3 is about 17 MB in weight, normal sites allow up to 10 MB, but Kongregate allows up to 20 MB.
Zuriki`s Avatar
Rating Orb Zuriki 18 United Kingdom Melancholic 234C 84F
7 years ago | (5)
Flash does not play MIDI files unfortunately... I'm sure with AS3 you could make an interpretter but it would probably be horribly inefficient and not worth it - also I think Mardek 3 is still AS2...

Pseudo did say a few times that he wants to make a living out of Flash Game development. In my eyes a near impossible task with the Flash games being free stigma...
Soul`s Avatar
Rating Orb Soul 18 Australia PhlegmaticCholeric 14C 2F
7 years ago | (4)
It does seem like it would be impossible to make a living off of flash games for, as you said Zuriki, they are generally free, that said though most flash games are not of the quality and depth that the MARDEK series has presented so far and will likely build upon in the future. Some flash games however have incorporated pay features with great success, such as the Adventure Quest games, yes the bulk of the game is free but a great many of the players were willing to pay to play the exclusive stories, classes and items and with MARDEK planning to be as large as it is, it could possibly make generous sums of money with the same concepts IF Pseudo really wants to develop extra content, or he could simply charge for the later chapters like he mentioned and really, a few dollars for an old school RPG like this? It's like searching through the bargains at a game store to find Final Fantasy 7
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Korndezee`s Avatar
Rating Orb Korndezee 21 United States CholericPhlegmatic 2C 3F
7 years ago | (4)
How did you type before? o_O
I've always used the asdfjkl; "home keys", but I know a lot of people use both index fingers only, and are quite fast actually.
Merely curious ^_^
Pseudolonewolf`s Avatar
Rating Orb A β Pseudolonewolf 23 United Kingdom MelancholicPhlegmatic 2257C 559F
7 years ago | (4)
I seem to use most of the fingers on my left hand, but ONLY the index finger on my right hand for some reason. I was never taught at any point and just had to pick it up myself. I'm quite fast at typing like this, but sometimes my right index finger understandably hurts, which is why I want to be able to type 'properly'.
It's too bad though that the transition is likely to be slow and my typing will be hindered while I'm trying to switch over...
Zuriki`s Avatar
Rating Orb Zuriki 18 United Kingdom Melancholic 234C 84F
7 years ago | (6)
This is also how I type. Sometimes I use my first two fingers on my right hand, though not always. I use my third finger in for the backspace. I find it more comfortable and I type with reasonable speed and don't need to look at the keyboard (other that with peripheral vision (so I don't look at the keyboard but I can't type in the dark because I can't see the keyboard).

I can't use laptop style keyboards though, they really make me typo a LOT.
chimto`s Avatar
Rating Orb chimto 18 Viet Nam MelancholicCholeric 3C 2F
7 years ago | (15)
If you release M3 free:
- You'll get a massive amount of money from sponsors.
- You'll attract new fans.
- You MIGHT get more money from your future games (when your underaged fans could have a credit card).
If you sell M3:
- You'll lose almost all of your fanbase.
- You won't get any money from sponsors.
- You might not get much money on M3 since when people plays the M3 demo (if you releases one) they think it's not good to buy it (since the first dungeons are the worst part due to lack of skills).
- You won't get much money from your future games.
It's up to you to choose.
Zuriki`s Avatar
Rating Orb Zuriki 18 United Kingdom Melancholic 234C 84F
7 years ago | (18)
You've looked at this completely one sided, everyone should just disregard your opinion.

Here's what you've done in short:

M3 4 Free = LOTS OF GOOD STUFF
M3 4 Munies = LOTS OF BAD STUFF

You're supposed to list pros and cons of each.

For example:
M3 4 Free:
+ Instant cash inject that you're assured of
+ More market penetration
- Could have made more money
- Locked into deal so your control over how the game is distributed is very limited

M3 4 Cash:
+ Free control over it's distribution
+ Possibility to get a sponsored demo yet retain control over the game
+ Able to milk the games sales
+ Ability to make the game free later
- Loss of fanbase
- Possibility to lose money if it all goes wrong
- Cash income is spread over a large period of time
- Requires Pseudo to market the game more
Random person`s Avatar
Rating Orb Random person 21 European Union PhlegmaticCholeric 40C 7F
7 years ago | (5)
Tsk tsk tsk... A somewhat egoistical attempt to convince Pseudo to potentially give up the possibility to earn a lot of cash. Not a very rich attempt, to be honest. I'll try to prove my point.

Sponsorship could never earn anywhere near as much as selling the game. This should be obvious. You clearly underestimate Pseudo's fans. Surely quite a lot of them will be ready to spare some cash.

The free game WILL attract more fans, however real fans will certainly remain loyal if Pseudo desides to make them pay a bit. As a matter of fact it wouldn't affect my respect to Pseudo, although I'm not really even a fan. And those that leave wouldn't affect Pseudo's income anyways.

It is perfectly possible to get some bonus money from ads in the demo. The earnings won't be anywhere near to that of sponsoring a full game, however they'll be bot a nice additoin to the main revenue.

The demo might not involve most of the stuff, however it will certainly make people curious about the full game. If there were to be a list of all the skills and items found it the full game, then I'm sure people would be rather eager to get it.

Selling M3 won't necessarily affect the future incomes. If I'm correct and the loyal fans wont fade at the first signs of having to pay, then Pseudo will get just about as much money in the future as he might expect.

Finally, we have to respect Pseudo's right to do whatever he wants. He has put in quite a lot of time and effort, so there is no objective reason for him to make M3 free, unless he wants to. If charging people money will be his choise, then we are only left to try and understand his motives. I personally would like to see M3 free just as much as anyone else, but I realize that this desision belongs to Pseudo and him alone. I say we just leave it that way.
Zuriki`s Avatar
Rating Orb Zuriki 18 United Kingdom Melancholic 234C 84F
7 years ago | (4)
In addition, if he gets a sponsored demo he gets income from the sponsor and can later make the game cheaper/free if sales are very low.
Frankenpimp`s Avatar
Rating Orb Frankenpimp 16 United States Melancholic 2C 0F
7 years ago | (10)
I'd have a problem with paying because I'd have to use PayPal or something. I just don't wanna mess with it.
Zuriki`s Avatar
Rating Orb Zuriki 18 United Kingdom Melancholic 234C 84F
7 years ago | (6)
Scared? Think PayPal will steal all your money? Unlikely, it's trusted by MILLIONS, yes MILLIONS of people who use it EVERYDAY and have NO PROBLEMS with it. It'd be irrational to say that you don't trust it.
Fraty`s Avatar
Rating Orb ! Fraty 15 Denmark MelancholicSanguine 102C 4F
7 years ago | (3)
True, PayPal is the most secure paying method available ATM. If you don't recieve what you bought, you can get the money back from PayPal pretty easy, and let PayPal take care of getting the money back from the ones they paid the money to. Also the only possibility you have on getting 'hacked' is if your computer is bugged, and in that case your credit card info could be leaked no matter what online paying method you used.
Frankenpimp`s Avatar
Rating Orb Frankenpimp 16 United States Melancholic 2C 0F
7 years ago | (3)
I never said i didn't trust it. I just don't want to deal it.
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Toast`s Avatar
Rating Orb Toast 15 Australia PhlegmaticMelancholic 14C 12F
7 years ago | (6)
I learned touch-typing from watching my parents, though in school my teacher forced us to correct our techniques by playing a repetitive game (pretty much like DeNovo said). That helped immensely, and to aid this even more I just write meaningless stories. The more you write and practice, the better accustomed you get to touch-typing. This has gotten to such a point where I finish my work in half the time as my classmates with few spelling errors.

So yeah, moral of the story is to practice. :)
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