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Pseudolonewolf`s Avatar Temperaments! Fri 20th Aug 2010 12:04pm

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I already started a forum thread about this, but I know that mentioning it in a news post will cause it to be more readily seen by more people.

I spent a long time yesterday finally describing the Temperament Blends on the Temperaments page, which you can find here: [LINK]

I'm looking for feedback about the descriptions, about their accuracy and interestingness and other such things, I suppose.

I'm also curious about whether these descriptions clear up some confusion for some people. I've noticed a lot of people struggle to choose their temperaments, and I've been asked to update the page for ages to help with choosing.
If you have changed your profile's temperaments or got a better idea of which temperaments you are based on these descriptions, I'd be very interested to hear about that!
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Spe`s Avatar
Rating Orb Spe 16 United States PhlegmaticCholeric 108C 43F
7 years ago | (1)
Sorry, I meant Phlegmatic/Sangune. got the 2 reversed... Maybe you should have an edit post button on here?
Spe`s Avatar
Rating Orb Spe 16 United States PhlegmaticCholeric 108C 43F
7 years ago | (2)
Your entire thing on the Temperments is incredibly well written and I find it very interesting. I was reading the traits of the 4, and I decided I had to be Melancholic/Phlegmatic. But a few things seemed out of place... Then I got down to the blends... I read the one on Sanguine/Phlegmatic, Is was really amazed at how perfectly it fit me. Mostly the apathetic and passive-agressive part. Those may sound negative but I'm proud of it!
TotalBlank`s Avatar
Rating Orb TotalBlank 23 Canada 15C 4F
7 years ago | (3)
The temperaments is an awesome idea but the only problem was identifying myself without coming off as a harmful or sadistic person. I found myself being torn between 4 different combinations just because of the sadist and harmful feelings that is deep down in their characters, so I had to go with Choleric/Phlegmatic as the next best fit.
Woyzeck`s Avatar
Rating Orb Woyzeck 18 United States MelancholicSanguine 1C 1F
7 years ago | (8)
I have to say that my personal opinion of the four temperaments is that they are a way to simplify complex human psychology. They are inaccurate generalizations and there will be people donmt fall into any of them.
TTophat`s Avatar
Rating Orb TTophat 17 United States CholericPhlegmatic 42C 50F
7 years ago | (5)
They aren't generalizations, as Pseudo puts it, they are bases of personality. Also, I think that most people would easily fit into a temperament, and most who don't feel that they do, are opposite blends (like me, though I've never felt like that). Plus, I find them stunningly accurate. Everything in the C/P description fit me (except the "doesn't feel that temperaments apply to them"). Your temperament also has that feeling of not having a temperament, so maybe that has something to do with what you said?
Xerxu`s Avatar
Rating Orb Xerxu 18 United States PhlegmaticMelancholic 5C 1F
7 years ago | (5)
Temperaments are best measured during childhood, when our personalities are still developing, and our temperaments is interacting with the environment. As we grow older, our moral values, fears, expectations, and experiences becomes dominant; we learn to surpress negative traits, or mask certain aspects of ourselves in order to appeal to society. It's possible that all temperaments influence us, though some more than the others. Perhaps the people that can't decide on their blend is taking the descriptions way too seriously?

Pseudo made it quite clear that temperaments are merely foundations, they're the 'how and why', our basic needs, that sort of stuff. My neighbor constantly comes over to my house when she's bored, as far as I can tell, she craves companionship, so she's a sanguine perhaps. I don't mind listening to her blabber about obscure Korean boybands, but I can be cold and condescending towards her if she interferes with my daily routine.

Here's another a better example: say a group of four people, each representing a temperament, are deciding what movie they want to see at the cinema. The sanguine is going to talk about all the movies he's seen recently, the melancholic is going to read reviews of all the movies to make sure his decision is perfect, the choleric will just go ahead and choose a movie, and the phlegmatic will go along with whatever his friends picked. Now, it doesn't matter what kind of movie they're going to watch - that's all based on personalities - it's the decision process that defines a person's temperament.

I agree that the human mind is a complex thing. Psychologists will say neuroscience is the only accurate way to explain human behaviors, but we're not all PhD certified in neurology. Even if the four temperaments concept is inaccurate, I still think it's nice to learn a little bit about how we define ourselves.

(I apologize if my response is a little...excessive...if not totally unrelated to your statements. My internet is slow today so while I'm waiting for sites to load I'm sitting here typing this heh.)
orcris`s Avatar
Rating Orb orcris 16 United States MelancholicCholeric 85C 82F
7 years ago | (8)
That temperament update was extremely helpful. I think the temperament I chose because of that fits me perfectly.
Minnakht`s Avatar
Rating Orb Minnakht 16 Poland PhlegmaticSanguine 121C 84F
7 years ago | (6)
Unlike many others, I feel that which temperament I chose fits perfectly, except for that I don't really like parties that much. Yet. After I turn 18, I'll be able to legally intoxicate myself, and at that point parties will turn funnier... Oh well. But I am mostly passive, rarely deciding anything on my own, enjoy company if it comes by itself, but do not seek it, and whatever else was there. Temporary interests in things? Check. No worries, mate? Check. Unreliable? Check. Desire to help? Check.
Paulreaper`s Avatar
Rating Orb Paulreaper 15 Brazil CholericMelancholic 22C 4F
7 years ago | (9)
I was wondering, what are the relations between the Elements and the Temperaments? I always thought there was something Natural-elemental-like in the Temperaments.
Eleanor Rigby`s Avatar
Rating Orb E Eleanor Rigby 15 United States PhlegmaticCholeric 1184C 365F
7 years ago | (6)
Traditionally , each of the classical Temperaments corresponds to one of the classical Elements. Fire corresponds to choleric, water to phlegmatic, earth to melancholic, and air to sanguine. In case you are interested, each of the temperament/element pairs also have a corresponding season. Fire/choleric is summer, water/phlegmatic is winter, earth/melancholic are spring, and air/sanguine are autumn. The theory of element/temperament/season triplets date back to when people still believed temperaments were caused by bodily humors, so the validity of the theory may not be sound. Also, I think Pseudo may have changed the elements a bit to better suit what he was using them for, so the above may not apply to his versions.
Paulreaper`s Avatar
Rating Orb Paulreaper 15 Brazil CholericMelancholic 22C 4F
7 years ago | (10)
Wow, you know quite a lot. Thanks for explaining me :D
Ben1005`s Avatar
Rating Orb Ben1005 11 United States CholericMelancholic 236C 218F
7 years ago | (12)
Is there some reason that there was no Weekly Update this past Sunday?
I understand if it's because you're not working on anything,Pseudo,but it would've been nice to know that if you might be having any more psychological problems that prevent you from working on a game and when you might be working on another game,etc....
shadowgokustar`s Avatar
Rating Orb shadowgokustar 16 United States PhlegmaticCholeric 134C 38F
7 years ago | (9)
-- Uhh, I don't know if this is the appropriate place to say this, but a member of this site, Scorchfrost, has had his account frozen (he thinks it's been hacked). He is not able to log in any more and has been forced to create a new account. Pseudolonewolf, could you please see if you can fix this problem? I think it's just that his old password was lost in the site transfer or something...
Pseudonym`s Avatar
Rating Orb Pseudonym 19 Canada MelancholicPhlegmatic 2C 0F
7 years ago | (6)
Your best bet is to post this in the technical help thread on the forum (in my opinion). It'd probably also be best if your friend created a new account, so that they can communicate personally. Of course, this is only from my experiences. I hope it helps. ^__^
Magnus`s Avatar
Rating Orb Magnus 33 Canada PhlegmaticCholeric 11C 0F
7 years ago | (6)
Your additional information inspired me to change my diagnosis from phlegmatic/melancholic to phlegmatic/choleric - perhaps a better fit, although I tend to be quite self-deprecatory (maybe that's more of a national character, it does seem to be the litmus test to distinguish Canadians from Americans).

Now that I'm officially phlegmatic/choleric I'd like to say that I have traits of all 4 temperaments. I think that it's very interesting that Pseudo noted that many of my temperament see it this way. I think it's really interesting that Pseudo's so interested (obsessed?) by the temperaments - it makes me suspect a Waldorf education. Am I right? At any rate, I think it's interesting to try and categorize one's self, but I can't imagine going through the world trying to figure out the temperaments of all whom I meet.
Pseudonym`s Avatar
Rating Orb Pseudonym 19 Canada MelancholicPhlegmatic 2C 0F
7 years ago | (7)
Don't forget to keep in mind that everyone generally has traits corresponding to each temperament. It is mainly one's inclination towards one or more of these traits that determines which temperaments are dominant in that particular person's personality. I'm a little hard-pressed to think of an appropriate analogy, but if you would bare with me, it may be helpful to think of each temperament as a different colour of paint. Though, one cannot have none of a particular colour. Every person has at least some degree of each of these primary colours in their bucket (personality); however, it is the amount of each particular colour, which determines the overall colour of the bucket. Does this make any sense or am I just rambling?
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