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Pseudolonewolf`s Avatar Site Renewal Wed 2nd Mar 2011 8:56pm


I mentioned in one of the many posts I've written lately that I intend to redo the site, and I do... but I've been wondering whether it should be more than just a simple cosmetic change.

You see, I've been using the same database stuff since the site started several years ago, and back when I set it all up, I didn't have the experience and knowledge that I do now. As a result, the tables are far from neat and efficient, and the database is full of old 'gunk' that's long since fallen out of use...

The members table is full of dead accounts and empty space from deleted accounts, and the data that is there is structured poorly. It's structured poorly in every table, actually; the comments, the forum posts, etc... All of that's done far less efficiently and elegantly than it could be.
I know that it doesn't affect you, the end users, at all, this behind the scenes stuff, but it's getting harder to work with and it probably results in the site being slower than it could be.

So, I was wondering whether with the new version of the site, we could all start from scratch!
That is, I'd use a new database, so there'd be no existing accounts or posts or anything. You'd need to make a new account.

If I did do this, I'd still *keep* the old data that exists on this version of the site; I'd just likely make it into an archived version so you could read stuff, but not post anymore.

I've been doing so many 'fresh new starts' recently with my various artistic pursuits, distancing my self from old bad habits and sloppy designs, that it feels like I want to make the change here too...

I know that people might be deeply attached to their accounts, and as such I'm not sure whether I should do this at all.
I like fresh starts in some ways... It'd free us all from our current usernames, ratings, post history, and so on... Current members would also get newer, smaller numbers for their accounts, rather than values in the high-multiple-thousands.

I want to add some new features, too, like achievements/badges/medals/whatever for accounts, which would be rewarded to you based on achieving certain minor things, like 'Make your first comment' and so on, or more difficult things like 'Be a member for a year'.
It'd be nicer to start with all of these things in mind so as to implement them deeply, rather than just tacking them on to what already exists...
(If I did do the switchover, then people who have accounts here would get a special Achievement thing for being 'From the Old Site' or something.)

I may or may not go through with this. It'll mean more work for me if I do, but a better starting structure for the new site. Not doing it would mean less work for me, sort of, but I'd have to keep putting up with a bloated, inelegant database and I'd have to base the new design around old features of this current version...

So your opinions on this would be appreciated. I might start a poll about it soon, too.


120 Commentson 75 roots

Eragon`s Avatar
Rating Orb Eragon 14 Italy MelancholicPhlegmatic 142C 31F
7 years ago | (3)
Psuedo,I don't want to make you anxious,but,please,can you tell us what you want do do?I only want to know if you are going on whit the renewal or not,and if the answer is yes,can you tell us what you will use for evitate someone impesronating another?I'm start to become impazient,we had suggest you many beatiful ideas,and probably you have also many others,so,for say it in little words:
"Can you tell us what are you doing?"
lxzander95`s Avatar
Rating Orb lxzander95 18 United States 6C 0F
7 years ago | (6)
If you ask us, We wont bother. Because whatever update you do you think is wrong?! Heh. Not to us, We think you are doing things great. Nice elements, Awesome games, Epic site, dont hurt yourself. Dont do what you gotta do, do what you want to do.
fieldmarker`s Avatar
Rating Orb fieldmarker 14 Netherlands SanguineCholeric 80C 0F
7 years ago | (20)
Hurry up with the next post already! You said you'd try to post a weekly update of some sort every week! I just want to know if Alora Fane is getting on nicely!
david s`s Avatar
Rating Orb david s 19 United States MelancholicCholeric 1823C 898F
7 years ago | (8)
Don't you think you were being rather brash and offensive with that? Pseudo will send updates when he can, you should probably learn some patience.

That being said, Pseudo hasn't logged on in 2 weeks, so he is likely very busy.
dragulldrakan`s Avatar
Rating Orb dragulldrakan 15 Argentina MelancholicCholeric 61C 2F
7 years ago | (7)
while I have to agree with davids, fieldmaker does have a point in one thing: we're getting impatient here; maybe you should at least show us you're alive?
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Raiden`s Avatar
Rating Orb Raiden 16 Canada Sanguine 10C 38F
7 years ago | (3)
The idea makes sense, and im all for it.

However the matter that Eragon beings up about people stealing account names is something to consider creating a fail-safe for
TheWrongGuy`s Avatar
Rating Orb TheWrongGuy 12 United States MelancholicSanguine 3C 0F
7 years ago | (3)
I'm all for the idea of speeding up the experience here. With a bit of prior warning to put the "about me" section in some text file if it's real long, plain old common sense and the decency that is present here, this could work. Of course, I imagine there would be some confusion at first, but soon everything will hopefully be worked out and the site will be even better than before.
woolfguy`s Avatar
Rating Orb woolfguy 15 Ireland PhlegmaticSanguine 37C 2F
7 years ago | (7)
So everyone wants the change to happen but is worried about their account? I'd like to suggest a solution but honestly I can't think of any.
All I can say is have faith in Pseudolonewolf. Seriously the guy is constantly thinking of brilliant ideas I'm sure he can come up with something.
TheWrongGuy`s Avatar
Rating Orb TheWrongGuy 12 United States MelancholicSanguine 3C 0F
7 years ago | (4)
In terms of preserving account details, most of it isn't too tedious. Gender, age, alignment, that shouldn't b a problem. The "About Me", likes, hates, etc. stuff could be long, but that can be copied into a word file, so no problem there. The strengths/weaknesses thing has quite a few parts, but I'm quite sure everyone here can remember that sort of thing about themselves; same goes for temperament.

About account impersonation and such, I just recommend that everyone be very careful about who exactly you are dealing with.
wester`s Avatar
Rating Orb wester 19 Sweden MelancholicPhlegmatic 63C 12F
7 years ago | (6)
you know you can always send an E-mail whit an new temp password to everyone that sends an mail to an automatic acound in other world an revover passworld and use an username reserver that you works like this.
like this
Im Bolt_12 password is gg33 and the E-mail is just an example here.
I send an request for an password recover that will send me an new password that is random and update the hash so they are same.
I then send an other mail whit my username on the E-mail that I request my acc whit
I registration/current E-mail match my useraccont E-mail I will have my name reserved in an way that if some one tirest to use it but dont have my E-mail plus the temp password it will not work.
but I have bouth the temp password and E-mail that Only I can get into It should be safe/work.

so if I request an newpassword then tries to create an accound whit bolt_12 whit let say It will throw an error.

note I need to send an E-mail whit my curent E-mail to an automatic accound that tells it that I whant to do an transfer.
//if some one know an better way to explain please do so.
kmuse1713`s Avatar
Rating Orb kmuse1713 21 Venezuela SanguineCholeric 68C 3F
7 years ago | (6)
Everything sounds pretty good to me, I think. Its your choice, either way, and it sounds like its gonna take effort from your part, but if you want to go ahead with it, I think its a good idea.
bhoothnath`s Avatar
Rating Orb bhoothnath 9 India 10C 0F
7 years ago | (13)
Oh sorry about the annoying double i in it. it was not on purpose.
Jarl`s Avatar
Rating Orb β Jarl 13 Norway SanguinePhlegmatic 60C 1F
7 years ago | (16)
Uh.. frankly, it was more annoying that you commented on writing something wrong. You know, it takes up space. It might seem that this comment is a waste of space aswell, but uh, know you know that you shouldn't repeat that. o_O
bhoothnath`s Avatar
Rating Orb bhoothnath 9 India 10C 0F
7 years ago | (9)
It would be great if this would be done!Iit would give many people a chance to have new begginings! I admit it will not be fun to make the acounts again, but atleast those who have made mistakes will have a second chance! Anyway it is your choice entirely.
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