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Pseudolonewolf`s Avatar Coloured Orbs Fri 20th Nov 2009 2:13am

Category: Site Updates

I've been making significant adjustments to the site's various systems and mechanics and stuff.
You can now rate comments, forum posts, and *people* using one sort of rating system, which has seven levels of intensity. I'll be brief about this and just get straight to describing what each of the colours means.

Green is the highest; +3. This would be given to superb comments or forum posts that really make you think, or impress you a lot. The sort of thing you wish you could write. It should be given to people you really respect or consider close friends.

Turquoise is the next highest; +2. This is for good posts which you think are impressive and contribute decently, or are particularly verbose or whatever, but which aren't the best of the best. That is, if you think a post is great but it doesn't give you a sense of awe or something, then it's +2. For people, maybe it'd be for people you respect and/or consider friends, but you still feel your relationship with or respect for them could improve.

Blue signifies that something is 'decent'; +1. Better than average, but nothing to write home about. Comments you feel stand out, but only marginally so, are +1. It'd be similar for people; maybe individuals who've contributed a bit, who make you think "hm, he's okay, I suppose" rather than "I particularly like this person and know a lot about them!"

This shade of brown is the neutral value; 0. You should rate everything, but if you have no opinion, give it a 0 rating rather than nothing. This is the average; unremarkable. Posts that don't affect you much, or people who you can't really remember anything about.

Yellow is a warning of sorts. When posts break the rules somewhat or show signs of stupidity or lack of care, they're worth a -1 rating. It's sort of a way of saying 'watch it; don't make comments like this'. Maybe the grammar and spelling are sloppy or careless, or their attitude is annoying.
The rating applies to people with bad attitudes and disregard for the rules who've yet to make any major infractions.

Orange is a deeper warning; -2. This is for posts or people that really get on your nerves quite a bit, which you REALLY think need improving and would like to punish. Use sparingly.

By rating -3, you are saying that a person or post is as bad as can be and should change their act or get out of the community; they're not wanted here as they are. The worst trolls and rebels and 'flamers' and so on would get this, and most people with an overall rating of -3 would be banned. Posts that insult others or show no regard for the rules are worth -3.

I have added seven possibilities in the ratings so then subtlety is possible... and IMPORTANT. It seems that many people have been saying that it's natural for people to see in terms of black and white, essentially; rating only at the extremes. DO NOT DO THIS. Don't just rate things you like with a +3 and things you dislike with a -3. That is entirely the WRONG way to go about this system, and eventually your profiles will show how many of each rating you've given; people with only +3 and -3 ratings given will be penalised accordingly.

Please try to rate EVERYTHING, especially if it's something like a comment in reply to you or on your page. If you have no opinion, vote 0 rather than not rating at all, please. Ratings should not just be given if you have strong feelings about something, but should be given liberally to express your opinion or lack thereof about everything.
It only takes a second to rate, and there's no page refreshing involved. It's really simple. You also don't need to worry about voting incorrectly, since you can change your vote at any time.

This system will eventually *replace many other stats*, such as worth, value, HP, etc. I'll get to that eventually; it wouldn't be wise though to just make the change instantly. I'll do it gradually.

Oh, and the orb beside your username shows your general rating. Your overall respect and performance on the site. It should appear beside your username everywhere, so you can tell at a glance who the bad eggs are, as well as the noble, sparkling angels or whatever. You should all aim to never go below yellow! If you're orange or red, you need to figure out what you're doing wrong if you want to stay!

Anyway, enjoy! And remember: rate everything! FAIRLY, and with subtlety rather than monochromatic extremity.


84 Commentson 48 roots

Jericho`s Avatar
Rating Orb Jericho 18 SanguineMelancholic 85C 53F
8 years ago | (2)
I can't quite say that I like this new rating system for a few reasons.
1: What if your good friend happens to be saying really negative things on the site? or their post is just overall terrible? Many people are still going to rate them in the green just because they are their close friend. I have been rated very negatively on a lot of my posts simply because I have very few good friends on this site (whom actually rate me the right way) even though what I was saying in my post was very informative.
2: Why do we still have the like the m or hate them rating as well? It is just more reason for people to worry more about their ratings than the games and news that are being released.
jackelina`s Avatar
Rating Orb jackelina 15 United Kingdom PhlegmaticSanguine 44C 3F
8 years ago | (2)
Notice that a mofority of comments have a couple of good ratings (for obvious reasons) but they all have a red, almost as if to equal out the overall rating. Seems suspicous to me...
Aritheall`s Avatar
Rating Orb Aritheall 19 ┼land Islands PhlegmaticMelancholic 34C 22F
8 years ago | (5)
Question: Will you ever make it so you can See who gave you what rating? I can understand why you might not, because people might hate each other and the Great Rating War might ensue. But still, as a human I want to know who thought my post was worthless and perhaps write a nasty comment back. Anyway, I was just wondering because someone gave me a bad may be petty but when someone rates me poorly, I want to know who said person is.
Pseudolonewolf`s Avatar
Rating Orb A β Pseudolonewolf 23 United Kingdom MelancholicPhlegmatic 2257C 559F
8 years ago | (5)
I can understand why people would want to see who gave them what ratings, as I know I'd want to, but I do think it's best that it's anonymous for the same reasons as the Like/Hate system being anonymous... It would prevent rating down out of spite, hating people for fair but negative ratings they gave you, etc, etc... as you seem to already undertstand anyway, so I don't think I need to explain it further.
The cons outweigh the pros though.
SManDMan`s Avatar
Rating Orb SManDMan 0 Canada 21C 27F
8 years ago | (2)
Shouldn't there be away to see if someone had given people in a thread red ratings, or if someone went around giving it to every post of some person? Something short like "[username] seems to dislike this idea..." so that people will think twice before giving the red orbs to everyone they see. It would at least keep it down a bit, and the people who aren't trolling likely wouldn't give out three red orbs in one thread. Unless it was long. Very long. Since most the ones on this page having a -3 (bad for your health you know) or two, if they they were all from the same person then you could see it at the top. "USERNAME dislikes this". If it were one or two though it wouldn't say that... oh well, just an idea.
Conquerer7`s Avatar
Rating Orb Conquerer7 15 United States Phlegmatic 61C 188F
8 years ago | (5)
I humbly present this thread, where the first four posts all have one red rating. [LINK]

Will you take action on this kind of thing?
Pseudolonewolf`s Avatar
Rating Orb A β Pseudolonewolf 23 United Kingdom MelancholicPhlegmatic 2257C 559F
8 years ago | (4)
I've left a comment on the page of the member who did it, and I'll be keeping an eye on him to see if he continues to be a problem. If he continues to be a vandal, I'll remove ALL his ratings, but until then, I won't remove any.
turbotowns`s Avatar
Rating Orb turbotowns 16 United States CholericPhlegmatic 216C 3F
8 years ago | (14)
i wonder, do people REALY like me, or do they just dont want me gone?
turbotowns`s Avatar
Rating Orb turbotowns 16 United States CholericPhlegmatic 216C 3F
8 years ago | (16)
i bet, id get a red, several reds to be axact. from everyjerk who hates me. im surprised i have a yellow.
Aritheall`s Avatar
Rating Orb Aritheall 19 ┼land Islands PhlegmaticMelancholic 34C 22F
8 years ago | (11)
So I could be punished for having strong feelings about everything under the sun? I can't just hate or love things based on quick judgements? I have to think about how much a comment or post really affects me? (referring to the "people with only +3 and -3 ratings given will be penalised accordingly".)
Wow this is amazing!
I actually like this system a lot. It is logical and easy. I just hope people take it seriously and don't abuse the rating systems. From what I have seen so far this is not the case. Also, if I may be slightly immature, the Orbs are super cool looking and much better then just a number!
Magnus`s Avatar
Rating Orb Magnus 33 Canada PhlegmaticCholeric 11C 0F
8 years ago | (15)
Such a refined rating system is an interesting idea. I'm afraid that you muddied the waters a bit with your description of the levels though: shouldn't the rating have to do purely with the value of the post and not at all with someone being your friend. Naturally allegiances are going to show in the ratings, but I would have preferred it if you hadn't suggested that green ratings should go to people one considers a close friend...

Also, why aren't we able to rate your news articles?
Pseudolonewolf`s Avatar
Rating Orb A β Pseudolonewolf 23 United Kingdom MelancholicPhlegmatic 2257C 559F
8 years ago | (15)
What I meant was that green ratings should go to the *profiles* of people you consider a good friend, not to everything they ever write everywhere. Of course, comments should be rated on their own merits rather than who wrote them...

There's no reason to rate news articles because the rating system is mainly a way of encouraging and discouraging certain types of comments; I'm going to write news articles about what's relevant whether-or-not.
Frostinica`s Avatar
Rating Orb Frostinica 19 United States PhlegmaticMelancholic 26C 41F
8 years ago | (14)
I completely agree with you. And in spite of what he said of using for someone I consider as a friend, I'll use it for the value of the post. It seems more efficient that way.
Silk`s Avatar
Rating Orb Silk 17 New Zealand 191C 0F
8 years ago | (8)
Is it possible to make the orbs replace the health system? I think the orbs would be more... (You wouldnt believe how long it took me to find a word here)...Fair (That just doesnt sound right but I can't think of anything else) Because if somebody says something, constructive or destructive, even in the chat, you can go to their profile and give them a rating accordingly. What I mean by this is Like/Hate is a bit narrow, Green could be 'Constructive' and Red could be 'Destructive' with other words in between...Well, i'm rambling so I should stop about now...Anyway, try to give it some thought...Unless you already have and I missed something. Boy I hope not.
Silk`s Avatar
Rating Orb Silk 17 New Zealand 191C 0F
8 years ago | (14)
Can you make the greeting messages in the chatroom change depending on your orb status? Brown could be something boring, yellows and lower could be warnings of sorts and blue or higher could be congratulatory messages about being a valuable member of Fighunter...Or something along those lines
fire150`s Avatar
Rating Orb fire150 11 United States CholericSanguine 16C 0F
8 years ago | (24)
This is not a good idea because such as me people will get mad with their rating.
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