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Pseudolonewolf`s Avatar MARDEK 1 OST Wed 17th Feb 2010 11:16am

Category: Music

The Original Soundtrack of MARDEK 1 is now available for sale, apparently! I'll modify the Music page to link to it later, but for now I'll just give you this link here:



I've been very unsure about things like pricing, since I've no idea how much people would be willing to pay...

Apparently this site that I'm using to sell it does some things you may find a bit odd, because I did.
One of which is that you can just listen to all the music fully without actually paying at all; you only pay for the download. Now, I know it's possible to use various methods to rip or record the music from the site without paying, and the site knows this too and offers a valid explanation in their FAQ for why they don't just offer limited-duration previews: it's because people who are going to just rip it or something wouldn't be paying anyway, so if they couldn't be getting it for free, they wouldn't get it at all, and maybe perhaps even if they got it for free, they'd eventually pay just to show their appreciation?!? (Hah... as if.)
It would be kind and generous of you to pay, since it helps me out (I imagine a few people would do it instead of donating since they help me out but also GET something from it), and speaking of which, it seems that pricing is partly up to the user. I can decide to give things set prices, or I can instead set a minimum price and let the user name their own price if, for some reason, they want to pay MORE.
I can't really imagine many people deliberately paying MORE than the asking price, but the fact that the system exists at all makes me wonder how common that sort of thing is. Some people may only be able to spare $5US for the 'album', while others may WANT to pay $10 or more... Hmm.
If any of the prices seem too high or too LOW, please comment, because I'm clueless!

Anyway, does all the music sound okay? Do any of the pieces sound wrong or anything? I can re-upload some specific ones if there are any problems.
And are all there any missing tracks that you'd expect to be on the Chapter 1 OST?

Now, uh... how many of you would actually be willing to pay for my music, I wonder? Let's see...

I'll also upload chapter 2's OST later, once I've seen how this one seems to be doing. The Chapter 2 one will have four or five new tracks that were composed for the 'new version' of chapter 2 included in chapter 3 (things like an Arena Battle theme, character themes for Vehrn, Zach, and Emela, and some music that plays in the Battleship), which may make it more appealing.
I was going to include a track in the chapter 1 OST which is from chapter 3 (but also appears in the versions of the other two chapters because the location it plays in is in those) - Meraeador's Theme - but I was unsure whether or not to leave it until the Chapter 3 OST... HMM.

I'm actually rather EXCITED about selling music like this, apparently! Since I delight in composing my own full soundtracks for every game I make, I could most definitely make an OST for each one and link to it from in the game, which may be profitable, perhaps. I can't imagine getting a whole lot of money from it, but any additional income would be welcome.
I am even considering compiling some 'albums' of music from the Music page (Rambles, Diurnes, things like Space Yokels, etc), and composing new stuff specifically FOR albums too (like having an album themed after the elements and composing a piece for each element?), so, uh, this may encourage me to compose more music if people would actually buy it...!

Anyway, I don't expect many - or any, really - sales from this RIGHT NOW, but if I link to the chapter 3 OST from within the MARDEK 3 game itself (on the title screen), perhaps I will have found a new way of making significant amounts of money.
38 comments

 

38 Commentson 23 roots

whiteanger`s Avatar
Rating Orb whiteanger 17 Canada CholericPhlegmatic 119C 7F
8 years ago | (2)
Hmm. At first I thought that I wouldn't buy something like this, since I could hear it in the game, or just tape it if I really wanted to, but once I listened to the whole soundtrack, I felt that I actually liked the music alot more just when listening to it. When you're playing Mardek, you don't appreciate the music as much, so just listening to it while not playing Mardek really got me to understand how much I liked the music on its own. And at a price like that, I would deffinetly give up a handful of loose change for it. And of course it's supporting your games! How could I say no?
As for pricing, I think approx. 75 cents a song is a decent price for most people, even though I myself would pay over 1$ per song. But good idea for bringing in cash and distributing your musical talents! And the game-music team advertise eachother so it's all the better! I can't wait for the Mardek 2 soundtrack!
Anonymous Guest`s Avatar
Rating Orb Anonymous Guest 21 Hungary 23C 71F
8 years ago | (3)
Would you look at that. What a coincidence.
Not long ago I downloaded all the music on the music page, and put them all on a large playlist. I have other music, but they are more "listening" music. As in, if you don't really actively listen to them, they aren't that good. However I found that your music is great background music, witch is not surprising, since they are ment to be just that.

But then I was thinking: "This music would be so much better, if it would be in mp3 format (I could put it on my iPod). And also they should have a normal ending (as the sudden cut with music meant to be looped is annoying). And also they should be grouped accoring to some theme, not simply the alphabetical order of the filenames." And then you do this. So yeah, I do beleave I'll be getting them.

I also agree, that allowing people to listen to it fully is no problem. I think it might even be better than giving only 20 sec samples. Also I don't beleave that having the MIDI files for download here would be a problem either. For the reasons I mentioned just above. So good luck.
Archey`s Avatar
Rating Orb Archey 17 Brazil MelancholicCholeric 37C 8F
8 years ago | (2)
Great idea and great soundtrack, I'm willing to buy all of your soundtracks, althought is great to have this musics at MP3, buying the soundtrack is "like" a donation, so I think it would attract more people if there were any bonus songs, a music from the upcoming game from the series, anything would be great.
And even trough this is a bit of overthinking I think that after you released all soundtracks, or even three of them, you make a "combo" ( I'm not sure if this is the right word) with all songs of the all three games, that with a little discount, it might take some effort in vain maybe, but I'm sure it would sell.
gnome`s Avatar
Rating Orb gnome 19 United States PhlegmaticCholeric 386C 81F
8 years ago | (3)
I'd like to say excellent job on uploading that, and hopefully it will bring in more income---however, I do find the whole idea of "you may listen to the full song for free" to be rather absurd.. the site does seem to be giving *humans* the benefit of the doubt..
It rather defeats the purpose putting the music up for sale when people can get access to it for free with just a bit of extra effort, be it ripping the audio or simply downloading (and maybe converting) the MIDI format. I suggest that maybe you only put previews on this site from now on, and even selling music on a different website that limits the listening amount to :20, or something..
As for the price, I do feel that 5USD is a certainly good price, though for some reason I'd feel *far* more inclined to buy it if the price was set at 4, or 4.50, even--I'd even feel more inclined to pay "or more" for it. I've truly no idea why.
I feel like it would make more sense to just create a poll asking how much people would pay, since most people haven't even answered that question.. though it'd be in your interest to modify the poll so that it doesn't depend on cookies but rather IP addresses or being logged in, since one person could just vote hundreds of times.. maybe even creating a poll unique to this question, or something..
Anyway, whatever you choose to do in the future, hopefully it'll work out, and good luck finishing Chapter 3.
Pseudolonewolf`s Avatar
Rating Orb A β Pseudolonewolf 23 United Kingdom MelancholicPhlegmatic 2257C 559F
8 years ago | (3)
Well, like I already explained, and this is explained in that site's FAQ too, anyone who is going to rip the full versions of the music from the site wasn't going to ever buy it anyway; if they could only hear the preview, they'd just go somewhere else to get it for free, probably just by using the midi here or something. A lot of young people will fall into this category. But it seems that some people do pay ANYWAY after hearing the music in full on the site to show their appreciation, and I know they will be few, but the statistics wouldn't change significantly if there were only previews available.
Michael`s Avatar
Rating Orb β Michael 34 Canada 34C 246F
8 years ago | (2)
I think you're seriously underestimating modern MIDI-file players. The days where MIDI files were played via the FM synthesis chip inherited from the original AdLib PC soundcard, are long past. In fact, some modern soundcards omit that chip entirely, and instead embed a decent sound font in their drivers. As a result, even with Windows Media Player, there's not much difference for me, in the sound of the MIDI file, and the sound of the music from that site.

But I don't use Windows Media Player. Instead, I use XMPlay, a free player which has a MIDI addon that can load any soundfont. It can do a good job even on a computer where WMP would use the AdLib chip. And if I had the specific soundfont (SF2 file) you were using, I'd hear exactly what you are selling from just the MIDI file. Except I'd hear it better, because there would be no lossy compression.
Pseudolonewolf`s Avatar
Rating Orb A β Pseudolonewolf 23 United Kingdom MelancholicPhlegmatic 2257C 559F
8 years ago | (2)
The 'soundfont' (if it can technically be classed as one) used for the music there is just the basic General Midi Soundset one, which I'm using as explained somewhere (in my last post, maybe?); it's essentially the one that Windows Media Player uses, rather than a special sf2 file (though I do have a lot of those). So to me, the midis in Sibelius sound identical to those mp3s.
Still, the mp3 file format can have more done with it than midis, and it's consistent in sound between computers, so some people might want that format or something.
Michael`s Avatar
Rating Orb β Michael 34 Canada 34C 246F
8 years ago | (2)
But XMPlay can save its output as .WAV, which can be converted to anything else. With extra software (that I'm too lazy to install, but is also free), it can go direct to MP3 or Ogg.
dragulldrakan`s Avatar
Rating Orb dragulldrakan 15 Argentina MelancholicCholeric 61C 2F
8 years ago | (3)
Well, I haven't seen the sale page so I don't really know about that "only paying from the download" thing you said, but I think I wouldn't care since all you have to do to get all the music for free would be to complete the game (and those who would usally buy it because completing the games is too hard/long would simply use a walktrough or hack it) so buying it just seems a bit pointless, at least to me (specially in this one, as I can get all the music in about 10 minutes).

As for the price thing it might be different for your region but where I live, after a very difficult math problen (AKA typing a few numbers on the calculator) caused for the huge difference of my national coin with others, a music album/CD/record/anything in the style sells for 6.50-10(US dollars since it's the only one that I can calculate), the big difference is because of store, legitimate record or pirate copy, the typical overpriced first edition, and stuff like that.

Hope it helps, bye.
Pseudolonewolf`s Avatar
Rating Orb A β Pseudolonewolf 23 United Kingdom MelancholicPhlegmatic 2257C 559F
8 years ago | (4)
There is a distinct difference between the music in the game and the music you can download from that site. The downloadable music is higher-quality and in mp3 format, meaning that it can be added to playlists and things like that, unlike the music embedded in the swf.
I know it is more likely that children such as yourself would be more likely to just use the swf, hack things, etc, because you can't spare a few dollars, either due to lack of technical ability or lack of money, but for older people, sparing a few dollars is not such a big deal, especially if they can show their appreciation that way.
DetroitLionsFan`s Avatar
Rating Orb DetroitLionsFan 16 United States PhlegmaticSanguine 188C 99F
8 years ago | (3)
In your post, your said that there are character themes for Vehrn, Zach, and Emela. Are you hinting that Emela is returning in Chapter 3??? Possibly?
Hmm...A soundtrack for MARDEK, not sure if it will be the biggest seller, but will probably turn a profit anyway!
Marvelousmoo`s Avatar
Rating Orb Marvelousmoo 17 United States MelancholicPhlegmatic 189C 49F
8 years ago | (2)
Um, that's not what the post says. If you read carefully, the songs were composed for the remake of chapter two that will be included with chapter three. They aren't necessarily for chapter three itself.
shadowgokustar`s Avatar
Rating Orb shadowgokustar 16 United States PhlegmaticCholeric 134C 38F
8 years ago | (2)
-- Ahaha!!! I knew your music was good in Mp3 format during the game, but the midis are so mush better! I am amazed at the change in quality between the two! I will always have one of your soundtracks in the background, linking it to people as I go around the Internet. Anyways, I'll probably be able to convince my mom to buy it with her credit card and then repay her afterward, but until then, I'll just link it to others in case they are looking to buy some classical music from a talented artist. But, uh, I hope beta testing is going along quickly and painlessly! :D
shadowgokustar`s Avatar
Rating Orb shadowgokustar 16 United States PhlegmaticCholeric 134C 38F
8 years ago | (2)
-- Oh, and do you think that a Navbar tab will be added to link to the part of this "band camp" site with your music on it?
Pseudolonewolf`s Avatar
Rating Orb A β Pseudolonewolf 23 United Kingdom MelancholicPhlegmatic 2257C 559F
8 years ago | (2)
It's linked to from the Music page currently, since I thought that anyone looking for my music anyway would look there, and a separate one like 'Soundtracks' or 'Buy Music' or something wouldn't really help much...
darkpaw15`s Avatar
Rating Orb ! darkpaw15 15 United States 86C 0F
8 years ago | (15)
i dont care if i brake a rule or two but if ur gonna make sound tracks and albums to sell make some sound real and apealing to the buyer and im not talking about mardek sound tracks im talking about songs that some ppl would think are real and ask whose the singer or drum or guitarist or what ever if u cach a break u can make alot of money (but it will be in small burst though) and bye the way psue u can delete my account since i always break rules (why is perfect grammer a rule can some one explain that)
Marvelousmoo`s Avatar
Rating Orb Marvelousmoo 17 United States MelancholicPhlegmatic 189C 49F
8 years ago | (6)
Some of us aren't cool, and don't ask each other "whose the singer or drum or guitarist". We nerds don't care about being cool. I particularly like this music very much, as video game music tends to reflect emotions unlike popular music. Although I don't really have anybody to say "Which MARDEK song is your favorite?", I would still like to buy them and enjoy listening to them.
darkpaw15`s Avatar
Rating Orb ! darkpaw15 15 United States 86C 0F
8 years ago | (8)
even nerds have nerd friends and im sure psuedolonewolf doesnt just want to sell to nerds he wants to sell to every one he can
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Ajbcool`s Avatar
Rating Orb E β Ajbcool 23 United States SanguinePhlegmatic 290C 148F
8 years ago | (5)
Perfect grammar is a rule because without it, posts become hard to read. Another reason is some people find it annoying when someone doesn't do things so simple as capitalizing their sentences, and punctuating them too. This is a great place where you can enjoy talking to other people about interesting topics without having to worry about people going omgwtfbbq or other stuff that I don't really understand myself.

For example, it's very hard for me to read your post without capitalization, and with its immense run-on sentence. If you want to be recognized for your ideas, good grammar can present it in a better light than what a lot of conversations have degraded to on the internet these days.
Julius`s Avatar
Rating Orb Julius 21 Canada MelancholicPhlegmatic 33C 9F
8 years ago | (3)
Outright brilliant idea for making money. A quick look on Youtube for songs from just about any popular game (Final Fantasy, Tales, etc) and the overall views and comments they get are proof of how well-received video game music can be, not just for their overall sound, but the feeling of a song can be "enhanced" whenever it plays during any moment during a game that really stands out to the players. An OST for a reasonable price should get a fair number of sales, especially if you add a link to it in the game (Title screen, maybe ending stats screen, etc.). With the quality of the music you compose, you could really get something going.
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