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ForumLook what I found! An amusing look into what pop culture does badly

An amusing look into what pop culture does badly3 Posts

Aiur`s Avatar
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This is a link to TVTropes, a website (a wiki, I think) about various tropes, stereotypes, misconceptions and the such associated with television, primarily, although anime, manga, cartoons, movies, etcetera are also included.

This site has a surprising bit of wisdom about its topic, and presents it in a very comedic way, such as the trope "Did You Just Flip Off Cthulhu?"

It's a good site for a quick laugh at the expense of modern culture. Nothing much very deep, but there's a lot there. *Does Face Heel Turn and Walks Off Into The Sunset*

*EDIT, MONTHS LATER* Aw, sweet YALORT, did I really write this?! How... embarassing.
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I think you've perhaps completely missed the point of TVTropes... since things like calling it not very deep, a quick laugh at the expense of modern culture, etc, give completely the wrong impression of what the site is.

Tropes have been around forever, essentially; archetypical characters and standard plot devices have been around as long as stories have, so it's not a matter of popular culture.
While TVTropes goes over examples of them as they're used in popular culture, it means only record, not to mock. As it tries to make clear at one point, 'tropes are not cliches', and there's nothing wrong with using them. In fact, it'd be impossible to write a decent story without invoking hundreds of them.
Realising a work's tropes in fact gives a deeper understanding of its structure, its inspirations, and so on, and as such the site could be said to be quite 'deep' indeed by going into such analytical detail.

I find TVTropes appealing and interesting as a maker of stories (in the form of games, obviously) myself, since it's good to get ideas about what works and to reference things that are commonly known and seen.

I found the site years ago, and apparently when I heard more recently that the average members of this site talking about not only reading it, but editing it, it felt a bit wrong... Like the site was some source of arcane knowledge that would be greatly beneficial to creators but should be kept out of reach of the 'consumers' so as to give the creators the tools they need to craft, but to not spoil the experience for those consumers...
I know that's not what it is and that's not the right way to think about it, but I just mention it here to show the way in which TVTropes appeals to my mind.

I find it 'intriguing' far more than I find it a 'cheap, shallow laugh at what pop culture does badly'.
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Well, there is some depth to the material, but most of the time they present it in such a comical way that it works either way, for comedy or consideration. Let me phrase it another way: it's funny because it's true.

And while most of them have been around for a long time, as you mentioned, many of the more minor ones such as 'Blush Stickers', which only emerged in this past, oh, 60 years or so at most?
By 'not deep', I really meant more that it wasn't exactly Dostoevsky, not that it was particularly shallow. It does delve rather deeply into origins and reasons at points, and I freely accept your saying so.

Anyway, although my thread title may be completely off (acknowledged), by saying that is was a good laugh I meant that it was very easy to use for a quick laugh, not that it was intended as such. Anyway, don't mind that, I have problems expressing this sort of thing properly the first time through all the time.

In short, while there is depth, there is also a wealth of comic potential; and the main point of this thread was just to point it out, although if you're correct about the average person here, that was hardly necessary... Well. Danke.
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